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bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUI
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Heime |
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bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH |
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Wed, 23 Aug 2023 11:57:55 +0000 |
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On Wednesday, August 23rd, 2023 at 11:29 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2023 22:04:06 +0000
> > From: Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> > the Swiss army knife of text editors" bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> >
> > The completing-read function in Emacs allows you to create a simple
> > interactive prompt where the user can type to complete a string based
> > on a given collection. REQUIRE-MATCH determines whether the input
> > must match an item in the collection.
> >
> > I find the design of completing-read as half-baked because INITIAL-VALUE
> > always works as an independent entity, always unaware of COLLECTION and
> > REQUIRE-MATCH
>
>
> "Half-baked" is a harsh qualification. I don't think it makes your
> arguments more attractive or convincing, so my advice is to avoid such
> derogatory epithets on issues which you have just recently learned and
> about which you might still be missing quite a lot.
How can we describe it - primitive - then. What lots am I missing about
the behaviour of INITIAL-VALUE being independent about the state of the
other variables ? And that entries in collection always start from index
zero when cycling is used. I have found its capability limited, having
actually used it.
Nevertheless, if I am missing on things, I would be glad to be corrected
so that I can change my code accordingly.
> In any case, from where I stand, any significant changes in the API of
> completing-read that are backward incompatible are out of the question
> at this stage, and if this discussion leads to a conclusion that an
> incompatible API could be useful, it will have to be a separate API.
I expected that as the functionalities get enhanced, some deficiencies
also get pumped up. Giving more control to the programmer about what
gets displayed in the minibuffer.
> > Thus, there exists no capabilities for possible interactions that could
> > influence how the completion works.
> >
> > For instance, suppose you want INITIAL-INPUT to be takes from collection,
> > and then have cycling start from a certain element after INITIAL-INPUT
> > is displayed. You can't. The only thing you can do is select an option
> > by automatically completing as much as possible.
> >
> > As for the cycling part, no proper functionality has been introduced.
> > INITIAL-INPUT
> > is there just to insert something to the minibuffer without any regard to
> > possible
> > restriction that one might want imposed on it and what gets displayed after
> > INITIAL-VALUE.
>
>
> Adding Stefan.
>
- bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH, Heime, 2023/08/22
- bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/08/23
- bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH,
Heime <=
- bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH, Stefan Monnier, 2023/08/23
- bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH, Heime, 2023/08/23
- bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH, Stefan Monnier, 2023/08/23
- bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH, Heime, 2023/08/23
- bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH, Stefan Monnier, 2023/08/23
- bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH, Heime, 2023/08/23
- bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH, Stefan Monnier, 2023/08/23
- bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH, Drew Adams, 2023/08/23
- bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH, Gregory Heytings, 2023/08/23
- bug#65459: completing-read INITIAL-VALUE unaware of COLLECTION and REQUIRE-MATCH, Stefan Monnier, 2023/08/23