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bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching |
Date: |
Fri, 18 Aug 2023 22:29:04 +0300 |
> From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
> Cc: 65347@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2023 15:14:46 -0400
>
> > What are "symbols" in this context?
>
> Strings made up of symbol constituents as defined by the current
> major-mode's syntax table. The normal definition of symbols.
Then you are talking about something very different from "words".
> > Capitalization issues with program code are conceptually different
> > from those with human-readable text. You are basically talking about
> > refactoring, not about text replacement. So the use cases that are of
> > interest to you are not well supported by query-replace, because it
> > doesn't target them. It could well mean that you will need a custom
> > replace-match function. Insisting on replace-match to support these
> > cases is not necessarily wise, from where I stand.
>
> Hm, that's fair. Although I would bet that the majority of usage of
> query-replace is with program code, since the majority of Emacs usage is
> with program code.
That's profoundly not true! Emacs is used with human-readable text
not less, and maybe more, than with program source code. I'm typing
this email in Emacs; I'm routinely making changes to our documentation
in Emacs -- these and others are all frequent text-editing activities.
> So features which make query-replace work better with code are still
> useful.
No, we need a real refactoring in Emacs! Using M-% as poor-man's
refactoring is fine, but pretending that it _is_ refactoring, and
adding minor extensions to it that are motivated by refactoring, is
simply wrong! It will likely complicate the text-oriented replacement
we have already, and will always fall short of decent refactoring
capabilities.
We should work on adding refactoring instead of tweaking M-% and M-*
in these directions.
> Another feature that could support this would be to allow defining
> multiple query/replacement pairs, and applying them together across the
> file or across multiple files, querying as we go. Then "foo" could be
> replaced with "bar" and "Foo" with "Bar". That kind of simultaneous
> replacement is something I've definitely wanted before.
IMO, this makes little or no sense in human-readable text; it does
make sense in the refactoring context. So let's add refactoring
capabilities to Emacs, and leave M-% for text.
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, (continued)
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/08/17
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Spencer Baugh, 2023/08/17
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/08/17
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Stefan Monnier, 2023/08/17
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/08/18
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Spencer Baugh, 2023/08/18
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/08/18
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Spencer Baugh, 2023/08/18
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/08/18
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Spencer Baugh, 2023/08/18
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Spencer Baugh, 2023/08/18
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/08/19
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Richard Stallman, 2023/08/20
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Stefan Monnier, 2023/08/18
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/08/19
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Stefan Monnier, 2023/08/19
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/08/19
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Stefan Monnier, 2023/08/19
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/08/19
- bug#65347: 29.1; Underscore in query replace prevents case-matching, Stefan Monnier, 2023/08/19