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bug#64868: 29.1; C-x O binding suggestion for (other-window -1)
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Van Ly |
Subject: |
bug#64868: 29.1; C-x O binding suggestion for (other-window -1) |
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Wed, 2 Aug 2023 16:25:00 GMT |
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> CC: "64868@debbugs.gnu.org" <64868@debbugs.gnu.org>
> Thread-Topic: [External] : bug#64868: 29.1; C-x O binding suggestion for
> (other-window -1)
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> Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2023 14:26:49 +0000
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> > I found a better mapping than C-x o,
> > C-x <up> for other-window in the other direction
> > C-x <down> for other-window
> > works well with C-x <left>/<right>
>
> Again, no, please. Bind these for yourself,
> if you like. There's no reason to add them
> as default key bindings.
>
Well I apologise if I
suggested to change default
bindings.
I think an improvement is to
have the capability to switch
to the other window in the
other direction. I see
keybindings like visual
themes the end user can mix
and match without too much
effort.
> > A lot of mentions on the Internet say Emacs's drawback is the need to
> > customize it because the defaults are quirky from a different time
> > before keyboard commoditification.
>
> Yes, well, binding C-x up/down by default,
> as you suggest, just adds two more quirky
> defaults.
>
The default is unused.
> Quirky and convenient are in the eyes of
> the beholder. Emacs lets you _easily_
> get whatever key bindings you like.
>
> Circulez. Il n'y a rien a voir.
>
> > > we should not give this command a key binding
> > > at all, not by default. There's no need, since
> > > you can easily do it for you
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > > without changing any default bindings.
> >
> > Repeating several C-u -1 C-x o is suboptimal for me.
>
> "For me." That's the point. What's optimal
> for user X isn't what user Y wants.
>
> Fortunately, both user X and user Y can get
> what they want, _trivially_. Neither X nor
> Y need to have their preferences be imposed
> on others as default bindings.
>
> "Tell Emacs" what You want, for Yourself,
> and your wish is Emacs's command. Immediate,
> simple; done.
>
So make it possible to toggle
in keybinding ``overlays''.
I have lived without wanting
to do the
C-u -1 C-x o
for as long as I can remember
and put off figuring how to
make access easier.