bug#64597: mode-line tool inaccessible when window width is small

[uzibalqa]

------- Original Message -------
On Saturday, July 15th, 2023 at 11:23 PM, uzibalqa via "Bug reports for GNU 
Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> wrote:


> ------- Original Message -------
> On Saturday, July 15th, 2023 at 6:00 PM, Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > tags 64597 notabug wontfix
> > thanks
> > 
> > > Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2023 21:25:29 +0000
> > > From: uzibalqa uzibalqa@proton.me
> > > Cc: 64597@debbugs.gnu.org
> > > 
> > > > > When a window is reduced in size I find no way to be able to use the 
> > > > > mode-line tools.
> > > > 
> > > > What do you mean by "mode-line tools", and how short does the
> > > > mode-line have to be in order to see the problems you see?
> > > > 
> > > > IOW, please provide a complete recipe to reproduce this problem,
> > > > starting from "emacs -Q", so that the problem and the way to reproduce
> > > > it will be clear.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > Suppose I have a bunch of self-defined minor modes displayed in the 
> > > modeline,
> > > where the lighters have the capability of showing menus (e.g. Outl).
> > > 
> > > Now, consider I need an accessible modeline (i.e. one with big font and 
> > > bold weight).
> > > Reducing the frame or window width makes the lighters at the far end of 
> > > the modeline
> > > inaccessible for use.
> > 
> > You can try setting mode-line-compact non-nil. If even that doesn't
> > solve your problem because you make your frames too narrow, or have
> > too many minor mode lighters active at the same time, then there's
> > nothing else Emacs can do: the fact that the mode line is a single
> > screen line is currently a hard restriction in the design of the Emacs
> > display, and so extra mode-line elements are truncated on display.
> 
> 
> The compact setting replaces multiple spaces with a single space. It does
> not really solve the problem.
> 
> Wontfix is not a good decision. Changes window sizes is a very common
> occurrence. Having a hard restriction on the mode-line is quite bad design
> to continue working with. Especially when package-defined and self-defined
> minor modes are becoming quite common.
 
Could there be a way to move the lighters around ?