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bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp
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Stefan Monnier |
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bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp |
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Mon, 27 Sep 2021 18:25:58 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
>> >> "Because it's only appropriate for Common Lisp." Good enough?
>> > No. We don't know that. We can't know that.
>>
>> Whether it works for other modes is not important. What we should
>> document is what it's intended to support.
>>
>> People have used `c-mode` for many other languages than C over the
>> years, yet we haven't changed its documentation to say it for C-like
>> languages.
>>
>> I don't understand why `lisp-mode` should be treated differently.
>
> I don't see how what you're saying is different
> from what I said, but I sense that you intend
> it to mean something different.
AFAIK you're arguing that we should not say "lisp-mode is designed for
Common-Lisp" on the basis that some users may be able to use for some
other languages, whereas I argue it doesn't matter what other languages
it may be used for unless we know and care about them to some extent.
If/when some other language pops up which we decide is important enough
(and similar enough) to support in `lisp-mode`, then we can revise the
doc, but for the last 20 years at least, `lisp-mode` has exclusively
catered to the needs of Common Lisp (even if some people have likely
used it for other languages, which I have no intention to prevent or
object to).
Other Lisps have their own major mode (Emacs Lisp, Scheme, Clojure,
Shen, ...).
> It's a Lisp mode. (George: "Is there a rosy hue?"
> Jerry: "There's...a...hue")
No, that's the thing, it's a Common Lisp mode, not just "any Lisp" mode.
> We know it kinda works for Common Lisp. You apparently know it kinda
> doesn't work for Scheme or Clojure.
I neither know nor care whether it does or not. Just like we neither
know nor care whether `c-mode` works for other languages when we say
that `c-mode` is a major mode for C.
> It sounds like the main question here is whether
> to call it out as something only for Common Lisp,
Indeed, what else do you think we were discussing?
> in which its name should be changed,
Why should the name of the major mode be relevant to this discussion?
Stefan
- bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp, (continued)
- bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp, Drew Adams, 2021/09/24
- bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp, Stefan Monnier, 2021/09/27
- bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp, Drew Adams, 2021/09/27
- bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp,
Stefan Monnier <=
- bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp, Drew Adams, 2021/09/27
- bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp, João Távora, 2021/09/27
- bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp, Drew Adams, 2021/09/27
- bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp, Stefan Monnier, 2021/09/27
- bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp, Drew Adams, 2021/09/27
- bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp, Stefan Monnier, 2021/09/27
- bug#49278: [External] : bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp, Jean Louis, 2021/09/27