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bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead


From: Lars Ingebrigtsen
Subject: bug#1305: All code that currently beeps should use visual bell instead
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 15:13:51 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux)

Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> writes:

> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>> However, I just noticed that an "emacs -Q" doesn't beep at all on this
>> machine -- because I've switched off all "alert" beeps in the OS
>> interface.  So `C-g' just says "Quit" in the echo area, and nothing
>> else.
>
> What machine is that?

It's a Debian/bullseye laptop with Gnome Shell -- so I guess it's a
Gnome Shell setting?  (The first thing I do with any machine is switch
off any "alert" beeps.)

>> So in this instance, defaulting `visible-bell' to "on" would make `C-g'
>> more intrusive/obnoxious than previously...  which is the opposite
>> effect than what was originally discussed in this bug report.
>
> Can anything be done about that, though?

I think this might point toward not doing anything about the default --
people who don't like beeps will switch them off on the OS level.  That
is, flipping the default will make `C-g' more intrusive for people
who've already made a decision to ignore beeps.

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