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bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual)
From: |
Noam Postavsky |
Subject: |
bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual) |
Date: |
Mon, 22 Apr 2019 16:59:23 -0400 |
User-agent: |
Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (gnu/linux) |
Sebastian Urban <mrsebastianurban@gmail.com> writes:
> I would like to remind that the target is someone new to Emacs or as
> I wrote before "(...) from perspective of *beginner* (...)". Now,
> which Emacs beginner will look into Elisp manual?
> buffer’s major mode tells Font Lock mode which text to fontify; for
> instance, programming language modes fontify syntactically relevant
> -constructs like comments, strings, and function names.
> +constructs like comments, strings, and function names. Any faces not
> +defined as font-lock-faces or by major mode will be ignored by Font
> +Lock mode, i.e. these faces will not be applied.
I'm unclear how this will help a beginner user. It sounds like
it's describing a potential source of buggy behaviour. But we don't
want the manual to excuse buggy behaviour, we rather want users to
report bugs.
> Maybe instead of "Any faces", "Most faces" should be used (I'm
> thinking about hardcoded faces for example).
Not sure what you mean by "hardcoded" faces.
>> If I understand correctly, this is rather a bug in table.el: it should
>> use 'font-lock-face instead of 'face, and then all this buggy
>> behaviour will go away. Perhaps you'd like to send a patch?
>
> Wouldn't this change ('face -> 'font-lock-face) also kill main problem
> of this bug(#35044) - disappearing face? Of course only for table.
Yes, I think so (that's what I meant by "all").
> Because if so, in addition to manual update, maybe a code update in
> table.el would be nice thing to do - kind of "2 for 1"?
>
> Unfortunately I'm last person who should do code updates right now -
> I didn't even finish first 14 chapters of Emacs manual... yet.
Jump in the deep end! You'll learn faster that way :)
- bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual), Sebastian Urban, 2019/04/16
- bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual), Noam Postavsky, 2019/04/19
- bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual), Eli Zaretskii, 2019/04/20
- bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual), Sebastian Urban, 2019/04/22
- bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual),
Noam Postavsky <=
- bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual), Sebastian Urban, 2019/04/24
- bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual), Noam Postavsky, 2019/04/26
- bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual), Sebastian Urban, 2019/04/27
- bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual), Noam Postavsky, 2019/04/27
- bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual), Sebastian Urban, 2019/04/28
- bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual), Noam Postavsky, 2019/04/28