bug#21072: 24.5; inconsistent behaviour of `C-M-h (mark-defun)' in Emacs Lisp

[Marcin Borkowski]

On 2016-10-11, at 23:15, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:

> 1. Respect of the optional arg even for non-interactive use is an
>    improvement, I think.

Thanks.

> 2. And it seems that no code distributed with Emacs calls `mark-defun'
>    with the optional arg.  So no problem there.  And it is unlikely
>    that 3rd-party code would call with the arg and expect it to be
>    ignored (as was the case before).

I would guess so.

> 3. With this at the top of *scratch* (note the blank line at top)
>    and point between the comment and the defun, each of `M-- C-M-h'
>    and `C-M-h' seems to loop indefinitely.
>
> -------------8<----------------
>
> ;; This buffer is for notes you don't want to save, and for Lisp evaluation.
> ;; If you want to create a file, visit that file with C-x C-f,
> ;; then enter the text in that file's own buffer.
>
> (defun a ()
>   nil)
> -------------8<----------------

I'll investigate it, thanks for the report.

> 4. And with the same thing, but without the blank line at the top,
>    both `M-- C-M-h' and `C-M-h' select the defun plus the comment,
>    except that they do not select the first comment line.  Intended?

No, see above.

> 5. `M-- C-M-h' and `C-M-h' always seem to select blank lines before
>    the defun.  Should they (what for)?

I'm pretty sure that they should select blank lines either before or
after the defun.  I just chose the "before" way.

> 6. Interactively, I would rather see repeated use of `C-M-h', after an
>    initial use of `C-M-h' with a negative prefix arg (e.g. `M-- C-M-h'),
>    continue to select defuns backward.  IOW, not need to use `M--'
>    explicitly for each `C-M-h'.
>
>    You can just hold down `C-M-h', to select multiple defuns forward.
>    I would like to be able to do the same thing, but backward, by
>    using `M-- C-M-h C-M-h C-M-h C-M-h...' (just hold down the chord).
>
>    If you do that, then a negative prefix arg should not mean backward;
>    it should just mean change direction (backward if previous command
>    was not `mark-defun').

That's interesting.  I'd like to implement it, but this will take time
(apart from other things, I have a 10-days-old son now:-).)

> 7. Someone will really need to test this with more than just Emacs Lisp.
>    The comments talk about Python and nesting, etc.

Definitely.  I do not feel competent enough for that, though.  (I'm
pretty sure I've seen some ERT stuff for testing that with Python, I'll
check it.)

> HTH.

Yes, definitely - thanks a lot!

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski