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From: | N. Jackson |
Subject: | bug#22547: 25.0.90; Background colour is not displayed on some lines after end of text |
Date: | Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:27:48 -0400 |
When reading mail/news in Gnus, HTML messages sometimes have patches of missing background colour. That is, there are patches where the window background colour shows through. This problem is not apparent in Emacs 24. The problem does not seem to happen where there is text in the foreground. Rather, the HTML background colour is missing on some lines after the text ends, from the end of the text to the right edge of the window (or block). [This is with left-to-right text.] The attachment example-1_Emacs-25.png shows an example of this problem. (The window background colour is black and the HTML is painting a grey background colour.) The attachment example-1_Emacs-24.png shows the same message correctly displayed in Emacs 24.5. The attachment example-2_Emacs-25.png shows another example of the problem, while the attachment example-2_Emacs-24.png shows the same message correctly displayed in Emacs 24.5. Note: I have shr-use-fonts set to nil, and this seems to make the problem worse (than with shr-use-fonts non-nil). But the problem still occurs sometimes with non-nil shr-use-fonts. The attachment example-2-b_Emacs-25.png shows the problem with non-nil shr-use-fonts. FWIW, I attach the two example messages in raw form, in case they should be useful for reproducing the problem. In GNU Emacs 25.0.90.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.7) of 2016-01-31 built on moondust Windowing system distributor 'Fedora Project', version 11.0.11800000 System Description: Fedora release 23 (Twenty Three) Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/home/nlj/local/ --enable-checking=yes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=-O0 -g3 -ggdb'' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 Important settings: value of $LC_MONETARY: en_DK.utf8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_DK.utf8 value of $LC_TIME: en_DK.utf8 value of $LANG: en_CA.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Text Minor modes in effect: flyspell-mode: t recentf-mode: t display-battery-mode: t display-time-mode: t save-place-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t show-paren-mode: t savehist-mode: t electric-pair-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t cua-mode: t tooltip-mode: t 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example-1_Emacs-25.png
Description: Example 1 showing the problem in Emacs 25
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Description: Example 1 showing no problem in Emacs 24
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Description: Example 2 showing the problem in Emacs 25
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Description: Example 2 showing no problem in Emacs 24
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Description: Example 2 showing the problem even with non-nil shr-use-fonts
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Reply-To: ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email-ff-m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV" --9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 TXkgZXh0ZW5kZWQgZG91YmxlIHplcHAgaXMgc2luZ2xlLXB1cnBvc2UsIHRvIGZhY2lsaXRh dGUgY29tbXMgd2l0aCBteSBmcmllbmQgRmF0aGVyIEpvaG4gSEg2Skggd2hlbiB0aGUgYmVh bSBpcyBvdGhlcndpc2Ugb2NjdXBpZWQuICBGb3IgdGhhdCBJIGhhdmUgaXQgb3JpZW50ZWQg dG8gZmF2b3Igbm9ydGggYW5kIHNvdXRoIGFuZCBpdCB3b3JrcyBhbWF6aW5nbHkgd2VsbCBm b3Igb25seSBiZWluZyB1cCBhYm91dCAxNSBmZWV0Lg0KDQpJIG1vZGVsZWQgaXQgaW4gRVpO RUMgYW5kIGN1dCB0aGUgZWxlbWVudCBhbmQgc3R1YiBsZW5ndGhzIG1vcmUgb3IgbGVzcyB0 byB0aGUgbW9kZWwsIGxlbmd0aHMgNDQuNzUgZnQgcGVyIHNpZGUgdGhlbiB0cmltbWVkIGZv ciBiZXN0IFNXUiwgYW5kIHN0dWIgbGVuZ3RoIDguMjUgZnQgb2YgNjAwLW9obSBsYWRkZXIg bGluZS4gIEkgY2FuIGZlZWQgaXQgd2l0aCBhIHJhbmRvbSBsZW5ndGggb2YgY29heCB0aHJ1 IGEgMToxIGNob2tlIGFuZCBpdCBzZWVtcyB0byB3b3JrIGp1c3QgZmluZS4NCg0KU1dSIGlz IDEuMToxIGF0IDE0LjE5NCwgMS41OjEgYXQgMTQuMCwgYW5kIDEuNzoxIGF0IDE0LjM1LCB3 aGljaCBpcyBiZXR0ZXIgdGhhbiB0aGUgbW9kZWwgc2FpZCBpdCB3b3VsZCBiZS4NCg0KV2Fz IGhvcGluZyB0byBnZXQgaXQgdXAgdG8gNDAgZmVldCB0aGlzIHllYXIgYnV0IG5vdyBpdCBs b29rcyBsaWtlIHRoYXQncyBub3QgZ29pbmcgdG8gaGFwcGVuIHVudGlsIHNwcmluZywgbWVh bndoaWxlIGl0J3MgZG9pbmcgaXRzIGpvYiBhdCAxNSBmZWV0IGFuZCBJIGRvbid0IHNlZW0g dG8gaGF2ZSB0byBwYXkgYXR0ZW50aW9uIHRvIHNwZWNpZmljIGNvYXggbGVuZ3Rocy4uDQoN ClJpY2sgV0ExUktU --9nlWnTS9ocNmxdhsK3FKVLWiM6a5jwOaA8HvrLV Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p>My extended double zepp is single-purpose, to facilitate comms with my friend Father John HH6JH when the beam is otherwise occupied. For that I have it oriented to favor north and south and it works amazingly well for only being up about 15 feet.<br><br>I modeled it in EZNEC and cut the element and stub lengths more or less to the model, lengths 44.75 ft per side then trimmed for best SWR, and stub length 8.25 ft of 600-ohm ladder line. I can feed it with a random length of coax thru a 1:1 choke and it seems to work just fine.<br><br>SWR is 1.1:1 at 14.194, 1.5:1 at 14.0, and 1.7:1 at 14.35, which is better than the model said it would be.<br><br>Was hoping to get it up to 40 feet this year but now it looks like that's not going to happen until spring, meanwhile it's doing its job at 15 feet and I don't seem to have to pay attention to specific coax lengths..<br><br>Rick WA1RKT</p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <div id="fromDMARC" style="margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: wa1rkt@comcast.net <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> </div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <table cellspacing=4px style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: #2D50FD;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD" href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ham-antennas/conversations/messages/38326;_ylc=X3oDMTJycWMwYW5vBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMzA0NzEyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARtc2dJZAMzODMyNgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0NDk5MzIzMTc-?act=reply&messageNum=38326">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="mailto:wa1rkt@comcast.net?subject=Re%3A%20Extended%20double%20Zepp%20-%20calculate%20stub%20length%20how%3F" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;"> <a href="mailto:ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Extended%20double%20Zepp%20-%20calculate%20stub%20length%20how%3F" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ham-antennas/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMGJ1NTd1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMzA0NzEyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0NDk5MzIzMTc-" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;color: #2D50FD;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ham-antennas/conversations/topics/37745;_ylc=X3oDMTM3cGozYmc4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMzA0NzEyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARtc2dJZAMzODMyNgRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0NDk5MzIzMTcEdHBjSWQDMzc3NDU-" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (37) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-grfd" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; padding: 15px 0;"> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> HAM ANTENNAS Anything and everything, tell us or ask questions. 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Thu, 17 Dec 2015 20:19:44 +0000 To: "ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com" <ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com> Message-ID: <1166213159.332000.1450383583721.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <n4qll3+vofqeu@YahooGroups.com> References: <56295592.8090705@cox.net> <n4ha7b+1714m1t@YahooGroups.com> <n4hcms+pam10@YahooGroups.com> <n4qlau+1r26i4@YahooGroups.com> <n4qll3+vofqeu@YahooGroups.com> X-Originating-IP: 98.139.170.167 X-Original-From: David Coombs <dcoombs303@yahoo.com> From: "David Coombs dcoombs303@yahoo.com [ham-antennas]" <ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com> X-Yahoo-Profile: dcoombs303 Sender: ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com; contact ham-antennas-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com List-Id: <ham-antennas.yahoogroups.com> Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ham-antennas-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 20:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [ham-antennas] Re: Extended double Zepp - calculate stub length how? Reply-To: ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email-ff-m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_331999_1687795830.1450383583712" ------=_Part_331999_1687795830.1450383583712 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It would be nice if I could get the software to run on my Windows 7=C2=A0 David Coombsdcoombs303@yahoo.com =20 From: "kl7rs@yahoo.com [ham-antennas]" <ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com> To: ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 8:26 PM Subject: [ham-antennas] Re: Extended double Zepp - calculate stub length h= ow? =20=20=20 =C2=A0 I forgot to mention.=C2=A0 With the results you get from IMAXGRAF,= you will NOT need a 4:1 balun.=C2=A0 Instead just place a 1:1 at the ladde= r line / coax junction to minimize any rf getting past that point and findi= ng its way along the coax and back into your shack.=C2=A0 I've been using t= his method to build lots of antennas over the years.=C2=A0 Lots of fun! 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style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:16px;"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17877" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17880">It would be nice if I could get the software to run on my Windows 7</span></div><div></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17879"> </div><div class="signature" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17870"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17878"><br></div>David Coombs<div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17869"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17871">dcoombs303@yahoo.com</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17876"><br></div></div></div><br> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17894"> <div style="font-family: bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17893"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17892"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "kl7rs@yahoo.com [ham-antennas]" <ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 15, 2015 8:26 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [ham-antennas] Re: Extended double Zepp - calculate stub length how?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17891"><br><div id="yiv7509857968"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17890"> <span> </span> <div id="yiv7509857968ygrp-mlmsg"> <div id="yiv7509857968ygrp-msg"> <div id="yiv7509857968ygrp-text"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1450383299277_17889">I forgot to mention. With the results you get from IMAXGRAF, you will NOT need a 4:1 balun. Instead just place a 1:1 at the ladder line / coax junction to minimize any rf getting past that point and finding its way along the coax and back into your shack. I've been using this method to build lots of antennas over the years. Lots of fun!<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Good Luck and keep us posted as to what you build and how it works!</div> </div> <div style="color:#fff;height:0;"></div></div> </div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <div id="fromDMARC" style="margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: David Coombs <dcoombs303@yahoo.com> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> </div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <table cellspacing=4px style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: #2D50FD;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD" href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ham-antennas/conversations/messages/38359;_ylc=X3oDMTJyOHZucjk3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMzA0NzEyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARtc2dJZAMzODM1OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0NTAzODM1OTA-?act=reply&messageNum=38359">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="mailto:dcoombs303@yahoo.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bham-antennas%5D%20Re%3A%20Extended%20double%20Zepp%20-%20calculate%20stub%20length%20how%3F" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;"> <a href="mailto:ham-antennas@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20%5Bham-antennas%5D%20Re%3A%20Extended%20double%20Zepp%20-%20calculate%20stub%20length%20how%3F" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ham-antennas/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMmxhbjNmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMzA0NzEyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0NTAzODM1OTA-" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;color: #2D50FD;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ham-antennas/conversations/topics/37745;_ylc=X3oDMTM3MHRoZjhxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyMzA0NzEyBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTA2MzEwOARtc2dJZAMzODM1OQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0NTAzODM1OTAEdHBjSWQDMzc3NDU-" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (40) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-grfd" style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; padding: 15px 0;"> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> HAM ANTENNAS Anything and everything, tell us or ask questions. 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