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bug#1381: acknowledged by developer (close 1382)
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Drew Adams |
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bug#1381: acknowledged by developer (close 1382) |
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Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:39:14 -0700 |
What's this about - is it a mistake?
#1381 has nothing to do with #1382.
See below for my last mail (2008) about #1381.
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> Subject: bug#1381 acknowledged by developer (close 1382)
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> This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report
> #1381: 23.0.60; capitalization of car and cdr in the doc,
> which was filed against the emacs package.
>
> It has been marked as closed by one of the developers, namely
> Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>.
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> From: Drew Adams Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 8:18 AM
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> Subject: bug#1381: 23.0.60; capitalization of car and cdr in the doc
>
> > OK, that's one thing. But my question was whether these
> > shouldn't simply be treated as normal Emacs terms - just
> > like cons, buffer, symbol, and frame, after
> > they have been introduced (defined).
> >
> > The reason for using @sc on car and cdr is that they are acronyms.
> > Those other terms are not acronyms.
>
> I see. That makes sense, I guess, though I'm not sure it's
> important. (If we
> always stuck to that convention, then we might always write
> "EMACS" or "EMacS",
> not "Emacs". ;-))
>
> FWIW, this is what Wikipedia says about the orthography of acronyms:
>
> The most common capitalization scheme seen with acronyms
> and initialisms is all-uppercase (all-caps), except for
> those few that have linguistically taken on an identity
> as regular words, with the acronymous etymology of the
> words fading into the background of common knowledge, such
> as has occurred with the words scuba, laser, and radar.
>
> That's the argument I'd make here: "car" and "cdr" have
> linguistically taken on
> an identity as regular words. The machine registers that were
> at the orgins of
> these terms are incidental to the current meanings, and
> knowledge of that
> historical relation is anecdotal.
>
> I see "cdr" (for Lispians) the same way I see "radar". We
> should encourage
> thinking of these as common terms, rather than as acronyms
> about machine
> registers. Rather than facilitating understanding, I think it
> gets in the way of
> understanding (and readability) to write "RADAR" and "CDR".
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